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'''Note''': a partition of <math>S</math> is a pair of sets <math>A</math>, <math>B</math> such that <math>A \cap B = \emptyset</math>, <math>A \cup B = S</math>.
 
'''Note''': a partition of <math>S</math> is a pair of sets <math>A</math>, <math>B</math> such that <math>A \cap B = \emptyset</math>, <math>A \cup B = S</math>.
  
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== Solution ==
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== Solution 1 ==
 
We claim that <math>243</math> is the minimal value of <math>m</math>. Let the two partitioned sets be <math>A</math> and <math>B</math>; we will try to partition <math>3, 9, 27, 81,</math> and <math>243</math> such that the <math>ab=c</math> condition is not satisfied. [[Without loss of generality]], we place <math>3</math> in <math>A</math>. Then <math>9</math> must be placed in <math>B</math>, so <math>81</math> must be placed in <math>A</math>, and <math>27</math> must be placed in <math>B</math>. Then <math>243</math> cannot be placed in any set, so we know <math>m</math> is less than or equal to <math>243</math>.
 
We claim that <math>243</math> is the minimal value of <math>m</math>. Let the two partitioned sets be <math>A</math> and <math>B</math>; we will try to partition <math>3, 9, 27, 81,</math> and <math>243</math> such that the <math>ab=c</math> condition is not satisfied. [[Without loss of generality]], we place <math>3</math> in <math>A</math>. Then <math>9</math> must be placed in <math>B</math>, so <math>81</math> must be placed in <math>A</math>, and <math>27</math> must be placed in <math>B</math>. Then <math>243</math> cannot be placed in any set, so we know <math>m</math> is less than or equal to <math>243</math>.
  
 
For <math>m \le 242</math>, we can partition <math>S</math> into <math>S \cap \{3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 81, 82, 83, 84 ... 242\}</math> and <math>S \cap \{9, 10, 11 ... 80\}</math>, and in neither set are there values where <math>ab=c</math> (since <math>8 < (3\text{ to }8)^2 < 81</math> and <math>81^2>242</math> and <math>(9\text{ to }80)^2 > 80 </math>). Thus <math>m = \boxed{243}</math>.
 
For <math>m \le 242</math>, we can partition <math>S</math> into <math>S \cap \{3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 81, 82, 83, 84 ... 242\}</math> and <math>S \cap \{9, 10, 11 ... 80\}</math>, and in neither set are there values where <math>ab=c</math> (since <math>8 < (3\text{ to }8)^2 < 81</math> and <math>81^2>242</math> and <math>(9\text{ to }80)^2 > 80 </math>). Thus <math>m = \boxed{243}</math>.
  
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==Video Solution==
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FYI, this. is a bad solution
  
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https://youtu.be/WCPxL5dLKCI
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== Solution 2 ==
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Consider <math>\{3,4,12\}</math>. We could have any two of the three be together in the same set, and the third in the other set. Thus, we have <math>\{3,4\}, \{3,12\}, \{4,12\}</math>. We will try to 'place' numbers in either set such that we never have <math>a\cdot b = c</math>, until we reach a point where we MUST have <math>a\cdot b =c</math>.
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We begin with <math>\{3,12\}</math>. Notice that <math>a,b,c</math> do not have to be distinct, meaning we could have <math>3\cdot 3=9</math>. Thus <math>9</math> must be with <math>4</math>. Notice that no matter in which set <math>36</math> is placed, we will be forced to have <math>a\cdot b =c</math>, since <math>3*12=36</math> and <math>4*9=36</math>.
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We could have <math>\{4,12\}</math>. Similarly, <math>16</math> must be with <math>3</math>, and no matter to which set <math>48</math> is placed into, we will be forced to have <math>a \cdot b =c</math>.
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Now we have <math>\{3,4\}</math>. <math>9</math> must be with <math>12</math>. Then <math>81</math> must be with <math>\{3,4\}</math>. Since <math>27</math> can't be placed in the same set as <math>\{3,4,81\}</math>, <math>27</math> must go with <math>\{9,12\}</math>. But then no matter where <math>243</math> is placed we will have <math>a\cdot b =c</math>.
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Thus, <math>\boxed{243}</math> is the minimum <math>m</math>.
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~skibbysiggy
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== Video Solution ==
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[https://youtu.be/bjHBaOeFt6g?si=ZcIOVMm6PpVdv0Ii 2010 AIME I #12]
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[https://mathproblemsolvingskills.wordpress.com/ MathProblemSolvingSkills.com]
  
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== See Also ==
 
== See Also ==

Latest revision as of 16:29, 26 December 2024

Problem

Let $m \ge 3$ be an integer and let $S = \{3,4,5,\ldots,m\}$. Find the smallest value of $m$ such that for every partition of $S$ into two subsets, at least one of the subsets contains integers $a$, $b$, and $c$ (not necessarily distinct) such that $ab = c$.

Note: a partition of $S$ is a pair of sets $A$, $B$ such that $A \cap B = \emptyset$, $A \cup B = S$.

Solution 1

We claim that $243$ is the minimal value of $m$. Let the two partitioned sets be $A$ and $B$; we will try to partition $3, 9, 27, 81,$ and $243$ such that the $ab=c$ condition is not satisfied. Without loss of generality, we place $3$ in $A$. Then $9$ must be placed in $B$, so $81$ must be placed in $A$, and $27$ must be placed in $B$. Then $243$ cannot be placed in any set, so we know $m$ is less than or equal to $243$.

For $m \le 242$, we can partition $S$ into $S \cap \{3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 81, 82, 83, 84 ... 242\}$ and $S \cap \{9, 10, 11 ... 80\}$, and in neither set are there values where $ab=c$ (since $8 < (3\text{ to }8)^2 < 81$ and $81^2>242$ and $(9\text{ to }80)^2 > 80$). Thus $m = \boxed{243}$.

FYI, this. is a bad solution

Solution 2

Consider $\{3,4,12\}$. We could have any two of the three be together in the same set, and the third in the other set. Thus, we have $\{3,4\}, \{3,12\}, \{4,12\}$. We will try to 'place' numbers in either set such that we never have $a\cdot b = c$, until we reach a point where we MUST have $a\cdot b =c$.

We begin with $\{3,12\}$. Notice that $a,b,c$ do not have to be distinct, meaning we could have $3\cdot 3=9$. Thus $9$ must be with $4$. Notice that no matter in which set $36$ is placed, we will be forced to have $a\cdot b =c$, since $3*12=36$ and $4*9=36$.

We could have $\{4,12\}$. Similarly, $16$ must be with $3$, and no matter to which set $48$ is placed into, we will be forced to have $a \cdot b =c$.

Now we have $\{3,4\}$. $9$ must be with $12$. Then $81$ must be with $\{3,4\}$. Since $27$ can't be placed in the same set as $\{3,4,81\}$, $27$ must go with $\{9,12\}$. But then no matter where $243$ is placed we will have $a\cdot b =c$.

Thus, $\boxed{243}$ is the minimum $m$.

~skibbysiggy

Video Solution

2010 AIME I #12

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