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Problem

Two fair dice, each with at least $6$ faces are rolled. On each face of each die is printed a distinct integer from $1$ to the number of faces on that die, inclusive. The probability of rolling a sum of $7$ is $\frac34$ of the probability of rolling a sum of $10,$ and the probability of rolling a sum of $12$ is $\frac{1}{12}$ . What is the least possible number of faces on the two dice combined?

$\textbf{(A) }16 \qquad \textbf{(B) }17 \qquad \textbf{(C) }18\qquad \textbf{(D) }19 \qquad \textbf{(E) }20$

Solution 1

Suppose the dice have $a$ and $b$ faces, and WLOG $a\geq{b}$ . Since each die has at least $6$ faces, there will always be $6$ ways to sum to $7$ . As a result, there must be $\tfrac{4}{3}\cdot6=8$ ways to sum to $10$ . There are at most nine distinct ways to get a sum of $10$ , which are possible whenever $a,b\geq{9}$ . To achieve exactly eight ways, $b$ must have $8$ faces, and $a\geq9$ . Let $n$ be the number of ways to obtain a sum of $12$ , then $\tfrac{n}{8a}=\tfrac{1}{12}\implies n=\tfrac{2}{3}a$ . Since $b=8$ , $n\leq8\implies a\leq{12}$ . In addition to $3\mid{a}$ , we only have to test $a=9,12$ , of which both work. Taking the smaller one, our answer becomes $a+b=9+8=\boxed{\textbf{(B)}\ 17}$ .

Solution 2

Suppose the dice have $a$ and $b$ faces, and WLOG $a\geq{b}$ . Note that if $a+b=12$ since they are both $6$ , there is one way to make $12$ , and incrementing $a$ or $b$ by one will add another way. This gives us the probability of making a 12 as $\frac{a+b-11}{ab}=\frac{1}{12}$ Cross-multiplying, we get $12a+12b-132=ab$ Simon's Favorite Factoring Trick now gives $(a-12)(b-12)=12$ This narrows the possibilities down to 3 ordered pairs of $(a,b)$ , which are $(13,24)$ , $(6,10)$ , and $(8,9)$ . We can obviously ignore the first pair and test the next two straightforwardly. The last pair yields the answer: $\frac{6}{72}=\frac{3}{4}\left(\frac{9+8-9}{72}\right)$ The answer is then $a+b=8+9=\boxed{\textbf{(B)}\ 17}$ .

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Solution 3 (Logic)

Notice that $\begin{align*} 7&=1+6 \\ &\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \vdots \\ &=6+1 \end{align*}$ are the only cases that could possibly form 7. In another words, regardless of the number of faces for each dice, 6 is the number of cases that could form a rolling sum of 7.

Because the value of the total combination for both are the same, we could infer that the number of cases of having a rolling sum of 10 is $\frac{4}{3}\cdot6=8$ . With the number 8, we could also deduce that one dice has 8 sides and the other has at least 9 sides. Thence trial and error could be utilized.

Since 9 is the next smallest number, the case could be tested. $\begin{align*} 12&=3+9 \\ &=4+8 \\ &\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \vdots \\ &=8+4 \end{align*}$ $\frac{6}{8\cdot9}=\frac{1}{12}$ is also true. Therefore, $8+9=\boxed{\textbf{(B) }17}$

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Video Solution

https://youtu.be/xGp5yQ5Bshs

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Video Solution by OmegaLearn (Using Probability)

https://youtu.be/geEDrsV5Glw

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