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Therefore, our only solutions are <math>x = 3^{1 + 1} = 9, y = 3^1 = 3</math>, and <math>x = 2^{2+1} = 8, y = 2^1 = 2</math>, and we are done. | Therefore, our only solutions are <math>x = 3^{1 + 1} = 9, y = 3^1 = 3</math>, and <math>x = 2^{2+1} = 8, y = 2^1 = 2</math>, and we are done. | ||
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+ | We are given the equation: | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | x^y = y^{x - y} | ||
+ | \] | ||
+ | and asked to find all positive integers \((x, y)\) that satisfy it. | ||
+ | |||
+ | \textbf{Step 1: Try small values of \(y\)} | ||
+ | |||
+ | We begin by checking small values of \(y\): | ||
+ | |||
+ | - If \(y = 1\), then the equation becomes: | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | x^1 = 1^{x - 1} = 1 \Rightarrow x = 1 | ||
+ | \] | ||
+ | So \((x, y) = (1, 1)\) is a solution. | ||
+ | |||
+ | - If \(y = 2\), try \(x = 8\): | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | x^y = 8^2 = 64,\quad y^{x - y} = 2^6 = 64 | ||
+ | \] | ||
+ | So \((x, y) = (8, 2)\) is a solution. | ||
+ | |||
+ | - If \(y = 3\), try \(x = 9\): | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | x^y = 9^3 = 729,\quad y^{x - y} = 3^6 = 729 | ||
+ | \] | ||
+ | So \((x, y) = (9, 3)\) is a solution. | ||
+ | |||
+ | \textbf{Step 2: General approach using logarithms} | ||
+ | |||
+ | Assume \(x = ky\) for some integer \(k > 1\). Then the equation becomes: | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | (ky)^y = y^{ky - y} = y^{y(k - 1)} | ||
+ | \] | ||
+ | Taking natural logarithms: | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | y \ln(ky) = y(k - 1)\ln y \Rightarrow \ln(ky) = (k - 1)\ln y | ||
+ | \] | ||
+ | Expanding the left-hand side: | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | \ln k + \ln y = (k - 1)\ln y \Rightarrow \ln k = (k - 2)\ln y \Rightarrow \ln y = \frac{\ln k}{k - 2} | ||
+ | \] | ||
+ | So for \(y\) to be an integer, \(\frac{\ln k}{k - 2}\) must be the logarithm of an integer. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Try small values of \(k\): | ||
+ | - If \(k = 3\): \(\ln y = \frac{\ln 3}{1} = \ln 3 \Rightarrow y = 3, x = 9\) | ||
+ | - If \(k = 4\): \(\ln y = \frac{\ln 4}{2} = \ln 2 \Rightarrow y = 2, x = 8\) | ||
+ | - If \(k = 5\): \(\ln y = \frac{\ln 5}{3} \not\in \ln(\mathbb{Z})\), so no integer solution for \(y\) | ||
+ | |||
+ | No other values of \(k\) give integer solutions for \(y\). | ||
+ | |||
+ | \textbf{Final Answer:} The only positive integer solutions are: | ||
+ | \[ | ||
+ | \boxed{(x, y) = (1, 1),\ (8, 2),\ (9, 3)} | ||
+ | \] | ||
== See also == | == See also == |
Revision as of 13:37, 4 July 2025
Find all pairs of positive integers such that
Solution
Note that is at least one. Then
is at least one, so
.
Write , where
. (We know that
is nonnegative because
.) Then our equation becomes
. Taking logarithms base
and dividing through by
, we obtain
.
Since divides the RHS of this equation, it must divide the LHS. Since
by assumption, we must have
, so that the equation reduces to
, or
. This equation has only the solutions
and
.
Therefore, our only solutions are , and
, and we are done.
We are given the equation: \[ x^y = y^{x - y} \] and asked to find all positive integers \((x, y)\) that satisfy it.
\textbf{Step 1: Try small values of \(y\)}
We begin by checking small values of \(y\):
- If \(y = 1\), then the equation becomes:
\[ x^1 = 1^{x - 1} = 1 \Rightarrow x = 1 \] So \((x, y) = (1, 1)\) is a solution.
- If \(y = 2\), try \(x = 8\):
\[ x^y = 8^2 = 64,\quad y^{x - y} = 2^6 = 64 \] So \((x, y) = (8, 2)\) is a solution.
- If \(y = 3\), try \(x = 9\):
\[ x^y = 9^3 = 729,\quad y^{x - y} = 3^6 = 729 \] So \((x, y) = (9, 3)\) is a solution.
\textbf{Step 2: General approach using logarithms}
Assume \(x = ky\) for some integer \(k > 1\). Then the equation becomes: \[ (ky)^y = y^{ky - y} = y^{y(k - 1)} \] Taking natural logarithms: \[ y \ln(ky) = y(k - 1)\ln y \Rightarrow \ln(ky) = (k - 1)\ln y \] Expanding the left-hand side: \[ \ln k + \ln y = (k - 1)\ln y \Rightarrow \ln k = (k - 2)\ln y \Rightarrow \ln y = \frac{\ln k}{k - 2} \] So for \(y\) to be an integer, \(\frac{\ln k}{k - 2}\) must be the logarithm of an integer.
Try small values of \(k\): - If \(k = 3\): \(\ln y = \frac{\ln 3}{1} = \ln 3 \Rightarrow y = 3, x = 9\) - If \(k = 4\): \(\ln y = \frac{\ln 4}{2} = \ln 2 \Rightarrow y = 2, x = 8\) - If \(k = 5\): \(\ln y = \frac{\ln 5}{3} \not\in \ln(\mathbb{Z})\), so no integer solution for \(y\)
No other values of \(k\) give integer solutions for \(y\).
\textbf{Final Answer:} The only positive integer solutions are: \[ \boxed{(x, y) = (1, 1),\ (8, 2),\ (9, 3)} \]
See also
1998 JBMO (Problems • Resources) | ||
Preceded by Problem 2 |
Followed by Problem 4 | |
1 • 2 • 3 • 4 • 5 | ||
All JBMO Problems and Solutions |